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Dataman EPROM programmer and fake Chinese EEPROMS

26/4/2020

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One of my ongoing projects is building a replica Acorn System 1 computer and this has required programming EPROMS. Programming EPROMS in itself is fast, but erasing them ready for re-use is time consuming.

So for this project I decided to use EEPROMS. Ebay had numerous Chinese sellers listing all types of devices from 2K to 64K and I bought a selection of AT28C16 (2K x 8) and AT28C64 (8K x 8)

I opted to use an 8K version initially as that fitted my IC socket on my development machine. 
I've documented the problems I've been having with getting that machine to run, and as one options to try and sort out my problems, I decided to abandon the EEPEOMs in case they were causing some weird incompatibility issues. To be fair I've not really got much experience with EEPROMs so it was possible there was some "got-ya" I wasn't aware of, so back to trusty (but slow development cycle) EPROMs seemed sensible for now.

This however meant using my crappy slow EPROM programmer. It's a serial programmer, running at 1200 baud and the software is so old that it would only run (just) on an old Windows XP laptop. It was a real pain.
And this problem has gotten in my way several times.

When my brother passed I kept his Stag EPROM programmer. This is a nice machine but again the software is really only and won't run on a modern PC. I did think about writing new software but who has the time.

I decided to bite the bullet and buy a new programmer that could program anything from a 2716 up.
It really isn't as easy finding a device as it sounds.

Forget all the Chinese ones. All their claims about being able to program anything are a little over hyped when you actually check the supported device list. None will program the 2716 or any device that needs over 18v for the Vpp.

I couldn't find any second had programmers and every google search kept sending me to Dataman who seem to be the only game in town these days. As a kid I'd always wanted a Dataman programmer; specifically an S4 machine, but they were wayyyy to expensive for me.

A few days ago a brand new Dataman Pro-40 landed on my door step. We won't discuss how much it cost, but I'm on bread and water for the next month.
That said, you get what you pay for.
I did have some weird problems installing the USB drivers on both of my Windows 10 machines but a couple of days later the problem just cleared itself and everything has been fine since. I'm wondering if there were background Windows updates being downloaded.

The Windows software is nice and easy to use and it's tee little things that make it a pleasure to use.
The software's all in English for one thing. Quite often if you do something; program or verify device it was ask if you want to do it again making it a lot faster to process many devices quickly one after the other. In fact, they have added a "YES" button to the actual programmer. Old chip out, new chip in, set the locking leaver and press the button on the device and the software just runs again. It makes it really quick especially when checking ICs.

This leads me onto the fake Chinese EEPROMS I'd bought.
The Pro-40 will also test jelly bean type logic ICs and memories. 
I'd used it to test my stack of 6116 memories and was pleasantly surprised to find only one out of around 20 was faulty. I've had them in my junk box for years so I was actually amazed at this result. 

I tested the ten AT28C64's I'd bought and one of them was found to be faulty. Interestingly it was the one device that I'd been using in my development system. The other nine IC's were fine.

I then tested the ten AT28C16's I'd bought. Nine of them were faulty. By the time I'd finished I could spot which were the fakes and I left the one I thought might be real to the end and that's the only one that passed.
Again, you get what you pay for I suppose... though I didn't pay good money for a box of fake/faulty chips. I wouldn't have mined so much if a couple had been faulty, but only one out of ten... I think that's taking the micky.
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My Acorn System 1 lives

23/4/2020

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I've been working on building a replica of an Acorn System 1 machine for quite some time and it's basically been working, but had a really annoying niggle that I've been struggling to fix. Anyway, yesterday I was browsing an online forum and decided to post details about the problem I was having. Talk about a long shot.
It took an hour or so for somebody to reply with a suggestion, and they were spot on.
Took me ten minutes with a scalpel and soldering iron to cut and bridge a couple of tracks and hey-presto, it sprang into life and works perfectly.

So, I now have a fully functional System 1 CPU board and keypad/display.
There are some updates I need to do to the PCB foils and the schematics to reflect the fix and add some additional ideas I've thought of, and then I'll put all the design files up on this site for those that want to build their own.

For those that know the Acorn System 1, there are a few changes in my version that should make building this one a little easier, but will also make it not completely compatible with existing Acorn hardware setups.

Whilst it does make use of the old bubble style LED display, there is provision to add a larger LED display as I've routed power to the display connector. I will have a design for a powered LED display soon.

It makes use of the W65C02 CPU instead of the older 6502. This gives some additional features including the ability to single step the CPU for debugging, and it will run at speeds much faster than the 6502 which was limited to 1 or 2MHz depending. Actually it will run at any speed from DC to around 14MHz in fact and it's useful to be able to run it at a very slow speed for debugging. 

The edgeway connector is different to the original. Mine uses a 96 position Euro connector with columns A+C loaded giving 64 pins, and whilst I did generally follow the original Acorn layout there are a couple of differences and some additional pins used. This means that the board probably won't be plug-and-play into an original Acorn existing rack system or be pin compatible with Acorn expansion boards. 

There is a more flexible clock oscillator circuit which can make use of any crystal up to 16MHz and divide down to the 1MHz required if you want full compatibility. This will save the having to source an expensive 1MHz crystal; assuming you can find one.

Instead of the two small PROMS on the original, only the EPROM socket is provided and this has been modified to accept the more common and simpler to program 2764 instead of the 2716. Many of the cheap EPROM programmers won't program 2716's. It will also work with an 2764 EEPROM.

The 2 x 2114 RAM chips have been replaced with a single 6116 RAM chip.
This also gives you 2K instead of 1K of RAM (this is configurable with a jumper).
(I will be changing this to use a more common RAM chip.)

The next step is to find a suitable workaround for the last component that is really difficult to find; the INS8514. I'm lucky in that I have one but they are really hard to find and very expensive. They are also quite easy to damage and without one, you can't get the display or keypad working. I've got some ideas for this.

The cassette interface has been removed. There is provision for a plug in card to be added to the keypad as all the control signals are still present if you really do want a cassette interface, but I think in these modern times, we can do better than magnetic tape. That's a future project.

The main PCB has been modified to take a standard euro PCB connector for mounting in a rack. Also, the keypad/display is now connected via a 20 way ribbon connector with ICD connectors at each end. This means you can remove the keypad if desired without having to desolder/resolder the ribbon cable. 

There's also a power on LED on the main PCB and provision for a reset switch. The keypad also has a reset switch and also has the IRQ and NMI buttons.

As long as it's set to a 1MHz clock rate, none of the above changes should break compatibility with an original System 1; with the exception of the cassette interface and that can be added if required, so it should be able to run all the original software.

As with the original there are no surface mount components and provision is made to socket all the ICs. Whilst there is a fair amount of soldering required to assemble one of these, it should be relatively easy for some somebody with only limited soldering experience. The hardest part is probably making the 20-way keypad ribbon cable. 

Once the plans are fully updated and I've checked to make sure the new PCB designs work as expected, I'll post something here in my blog.

I'd started to think I would never get this working so I've really very very pleased it's now running as expected.
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